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B A Baracus
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since: 11 Nov, 2000
1. Opinions Please....
I'm thinking of starting an Archer character soon and have no idea what type of template to use. Anyone have any ways to creat a bow guy where he gets almost everything by level 30ish?

Just a side note: I'd rather not specialize anything if it means getting my last skill at a lower level. This won't be a regularly played character, just for fun.


Baracus

Date: 11 Feb, 2001 on 01:05
Vanidor
2. Re:Opinions Please....
BA,

As one who has a high level archer (Level 47) and a 3 schoold ageer (level31) go with the 3 schoold dagger template (You get bow as well). The resoning is: you get 3 schoolds of magic, high melee d (Important for an archer), and high Dagger, which is good to use on those critters with high missle d. The template rocks, at level 31 most of my stats are on par with Vanidor's, except he has higher magic (5's in all schools). The bow is somewhat behind but you can favor that in lieu of dagger. But at 31 he has ~165 bow, and considering there are a lot of pks who do not have bow trained and still pk with it, I feel as if im golden. I generally fight people 10levels higher than me with this template, and they ususally run/recall after the first hit with my bandie dagger.

The template is as follows:

30
10
100 (or 95)
100 (or 95)
10
80

Start with Life, item, mellee d, healing, mana c, Arcane?
Spec dagger

Take Critter at level 8, then bow (I was actually hunting golems with bow before training it).

You can tweak the template, (I have)but be sure to keep your points in Self over focus, this will give you much more mana for buffing (Far more important than healing). Spec the dagger, it is cheap. Leveling with mellee at lower levels is easier than leveling with bow. Because you have to take hits much harder as an archer (It took me forever to level Van).

-Vanidor

Date: 11 Feb, 2001 on 01:24
Blakar
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since: 08 Sep, 2000
3. Re:Opinions Please....
Quite original template Vanidor but it doesn't really look as a nice template to play casually. I can make you quite a few enjoyable archer templates B A. I'll make some up and post them later on our Private board and explain how they work and what's the advantage of every one of them

As to your template Vanidor. I would not recommend it to anybody cause in the end dagger is nothing more than a waste. In PvP it's worth shit unless you go raid lowbies and unbuffed people. With dagger you hit buffed people for as good as zip. And I know a level 67 daggerfighter who just gave up on it after their last "daggerfix".

Personally I like a Sho archer a lot more. I would switch my Aluvian one any day for it. Just drop some for the quickness, up strength and pump that UA skill. The damage bonus you get from the skill is tons more interesting. Not to speak off immediate switching between damage types, faster animation, ...

Blakar

Date: 11 Feb, 2001 on 13:36
Vanidor
4. Re:Opinions Please....
Blakar, I disagree.

I have fought many uber ua's and hit them for 80pts first hit (while they were raiding so I assume they are buffed). The problem with dagger is that the damage is variable, so one time you will hit for 15 next you will hit for 80.

But dagger aside, the template spends your experience in fewer attributes making your melee d, and magic considerably higher higher.

It is actually a quite fun template to play, and I rarely fight anyone who isnt ~10 levels higher then me, of course I always imperil them first. I have had many people laugh when I imperil them, then they attack with thier uber unarmed, they almost always run within 2 or 3 hits. Several high levels with a similiar template include Bad Habit, Manny Calavera, Droko, etc. Its not that uncommon.


Vanidor,

Date: 12 Feb, 2001 on 03:54
B A Baracus
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5. Re:Opinions Please....
Thanks for putting forth the effort to reply to this post but I'd really like to focus on just a bow guy, no dagger. I don't care if he is one dimensional in fact, I think I'd prefer it that way. Any ideas on how to jack up the bow skill fast?

Baracus

Date: 12 Feb, 2001 on 23:50
Kuhal Earthshaker [HoC]
6. Re:Opinions Please....
Vanidor,

The biggest flaw of all in your attributes is your 10 focus 80 self, instead of 80 focus 10 self.

Mana can be raised 2 ways, so starting with higher self than focus is a complete waste. More Focus = Higher Healing, Arcane, etc.

More Mana far more important than healing? I think not. I have one of the most gimped templates in all of Darktide, I have Specialized healing. But because of my 10 starting focus, it's only at 230 base at level 53. On today's templates, a nonspec has the same if not higher than me at my level.

Not to mention my arcane is hurt greatly from the poor starting focus.

Date: 13 Feb, 2001 on 01:43
Vanidor
7. Re:Opinions Please....
Vanidor started with 10 self, 10 focus has no problem with healing or arcane (Of course he is a level 47 fletching mule).

My level 31 already has healing ~170 and Ive hardly touched it. The arcane is cheap and is up to 110 with no buffs (and I can buff it myself).

Im afraid I must disagree with you on that one.

-Vanidor

Date: 13 Feb, 2001 on 09:35
Vanidor
8. Re:Opinions Please....
A for a simple bowman, almost anything works. Just make sure his melee d is pretty sound. Vanidor has bow spec, but there is no comparison, since most of his leveling is pre-machine gun patch.

You can do the spec life/item archer gig. but i would be sure to limit your experience to as few attributes as possible (why I like the dagger template). Strength will be a hassle in the beginning, this is why I recommend leveling with melee for about 10-20 levels.

Carrying arrows will suck until your strength is ~150, then you'll never touch strength again.

Ramon has a pretty good sho archer template, he had life 5's at 40, you could ask manny what the starting stats were (It was originally his).


-Vanidor

Date: 13 Feb, 2001 on 09:41
Lyta
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9. Re:Opinions Please....
I've been considering bow templates myself. What about,

55/10/100/10+*/100/20+*

distribute the other 35 stat. points between quickness and self depending on whether you want better magic and mana or better melee D and run skill.

spec life
train bow, item, critter, healing
melee D at 12, mana c. at 26

I guess another option would be to spec. critter to begin with as well although this would leave you without one of the above important skills until you reach something like 50.

I'm no expert on bows but this looks like a sound template to me.

Lyta.

Date: 13 Feb, 2001 on 21:27
Blakar
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10. Re:Opinions Please....
Looks pretty interesting Lyta. It would probably work out pretty fine at higher levels though low quickness will slow down bow animation for a while and will hold down Melee Def though even if you put it all in Self it would work out if you get twinked long enough

Blakar

Date: 13 Feb, 2001 on 23:35
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