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The Elyssa Strathler Center for Addictions is now open!

 
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Low Pan
Shi-Chueh


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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 1:15 pm    Post subject: The Elyssa Strathler Center for Addictions is now open!

...get it? instead of Betty Ford...hehe

this is hilarious, I was half expecting it to show up in S. Korea, but I guess Amsterdam makes sense lol


http://edition.cnn.com/2006/TECH/fun.games/06/09/video.game.detox.ap/index.html

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Detox clinic to help addicted gamers

AMSTERDAM, Netherlands (AP) -- An addiction center is opening Europe's first detox clinic for video game addicts, offering in-house treatment for people who can't leave their joysticks alone.

Video games may look innocent, but they can be as addictive as gambling or drugs -- and just as hard to kick, says Keith Bakker, director of Amsterdam-based Smith & Jones Addiction Consultants.

Bakker already has treated 20 video game addicts, aged 13 to 30, since January. Some show withdrawal symptoms, such as shaking and sweating, when they look at a computer.

His detox program begins in July. It will run four to eight weeks, including discussions with therapists and efforts to build patients' interests in alternative activities.

"We have kids who don't know how to communicate with people face-to-face because they've spent the last three years talking to somebody in Korea through a computer," Bakker said. "Their social network has completely disappeared."

It can start with a Game Boy, perhaps given by parents hoping to keep their children occupied but away from the television. From there, it can progress to multilevel games that aren't made to be won.

Bakker said he has seen signs of addiction in children as young as 8.

Hyke van der Heijden, 28, a graduate of the Amsterdam program, started playing video games 20 years ago. By the time he was in college he was gaming about 14 hours a day and using drugs to play longer.

"For me, one joint would never be enough, or five minutes of gaming would never be enough," he said. "I would just keep going until I crashed out."

Van der Heijden first went to Smith & Jones for drug addiction in October 2005, but realized the gaming was the real problem. Since undergoing treatment, he has distanced himself from his smoking and gaming friends. He says he has been drug- and game-free for eight months.

Like other addicts, Bakker said, gamers are often trying to escape personal problems. When they play, their brains produce endorphins, giving them a high similar to that experienced by gamblers or drug addicts. Gamers' responses to questions even mirror those of alcoholics and gamblers when asked about use.

"Many of these kids believe that when they sit down, they're going to play two games and then do their homework," he said.

However, unlike other addicts, most gamers received their first game from their parents. "Because it's so new, parents don't see that this is something that can be dangerous," Bakker said.

Tim, a gamer who is under treatment, agreed to discuss his addiction on condition that his last name not being used. He said he began playing video games three years ago at age 18. Soon, he wouldn't leave his room for dinner. Later, he began taking drugs to stay awake and play longer. Finally, he sought help and picked up other hobbies to occupy his time.

Symptoms of addiction are easy to spot, Bakker says. Parents should take notice if a child neglects usual activities, spends several hours at a time with the computer and has no social life.

Bakker said parents of game addicts frequently echo the words of partners of cocaine addicts: "'I knew something was wrong, but I didn't know what it was."'


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Jo-chueh


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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 6:45 pm    Post subject:

That's a great idea.
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 7:36 pm    Post subject:

What did that name come from? I recognize it, but don't really remember it. And I think you spelled it wrong, because I searched it and got no results.
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Shi-Chueh


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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 7:59 pm    Post subject:

Elyssa as in Elyssa's favor....that might be a sic..might be Elysa but she was an IG NPC in AC. hehe, that almost sounded like "Good Morning in Vietnam" lmao
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 10:24 pm    Post subject:

Oh yeah, she's like the main character, besides Asheron. Shows how much the story really matters in AC haha.
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Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 1:38 am    Post subject:

shes the bow broad that shot the eye of the queen after it killed craigstone in the DM video nub
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Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 1:04 pm    Post subject:

That video is from the original game disc. It's just narrated on the DM one, nub.

I still know more crap about the story than ever really related to what was in the game at all. But that's the thing. They try so hard to make up so much "lore", yet it really has nothing to do with anything. Good 'ole Turbine-style prioritization for you.
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Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:18 pm    Post subject:

You know VC we don't agree on much. But we do share a mutual hatred of Turbine. You took up for me when I quit the game and I noticed you'd be posting like I used to post. Always telling them how pathetic they were. I'm kind of hoping you take up the cause against Bush and the other CEO types that screw our economy for their own personal profits...
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Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:53 pm    Post subject:

I don't like him, but I don't care to play the blame game. The problem is, the alternative was Kerry, and I don't think he was any magical solution to any problems at all. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. He won't be around too much longer, anyhow.

Politically, I am pretty much indifferent, because the basic idea of our two party political system is more like a football game to me than a truly efficient and representative government. You take sides, and it's like you suddenly become super-defensive of your home team for no reason to begin with, and no reason to keep it up, other than the chance to say that your team is better than the other team.

Funny thing is, I tried to be play nice on the Turbine forums, but I guess I did become a bit inflammatory. Someone commented on how it was sad to see me "deteriorate" over the years on the forums when they made a thread after I was banned haha. I still don't know why they banned me, but that must have been part of it. I think Ibn banned me just because he quit and he didn't like me. Frelorn warned me when I made a new account, and then I guess he just got tired of me, since the game was already about as bad as it could get at that point, and I never had anything good to say about what they were doing.
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Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:15 am    Post subject:

virindiclown wrote:

Politically, I am pretty much indifferent, because the basic idea of our two party political system is more like a football game to me than a truly efficient and representative government. You take sides, and it's like you suddenly become super-defensive of your home team for no reason to begin with, and no reason to keep it up, other than the chance to say that your team is better than the other team.


That's actually a great analogy VC, what sucks is letting a party define you. I am 99.9% against Republicans, but there is that .1% that might have an idea that I agree w/. Same w/ Dems, I'm a Dem but there are most definetly some in office positions that I abosultely would not agree w/ and would not vote at all for. Kerry wasn't as dumb as Bush, he isn't a genius but at least he has an IQ over 80 ...I'm hoping.
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