The Last Stand

[soulstalker]

this time its battle moose ss will foloow when its posted. are we going to remain friends or not

[soulstalker]

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[soulstalker]

post above is the ss of battle moose and his reply why he killed sai. the fact that your own ppl dont know who their friends are is getting old. i am needing leadership to address this problem.

[paperlion]

sorry bro, most of whats left in guild seem to be less than inteligent.

I was at ah the other day with someone in clan spamming for help, I get their to see a friendly guild. Why they "we" dont ID our target is beyond me. Lazy maybe, stupid possible, unacceptable definatley.

The game is definatley getting old. Most dont log on, others do and have little to do with whats left in the clan. Not sure if we punish anyone anymore.

I wish I had the energy to help you fix this issue, but special ed is not my specialty. Maybe we need to put it in crayon so most will understand.

peace
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[soulstalker]

paperlion ty for the post i know what you mean. it takes like 2 sec to hit thee key to see who the person and guild is. unfortunately i know alot of ppl in tls and am friends with them (aka in fellows and helping with vp and pvp our enemies). i dont want to have move tls to a unfriendly status but if this continues with no change i will have to. my mates who are attacked and killed by khoa's are wanting something done and it seems that i will have to put it to a guild vote

[spanker76]

not offering excuses, but again, this is a player i've never heard of or seen ig (ie, new to guild or DT). additionally, lots of people are coming back to the game and finding out that we are at war with lots of former allies.
i know it takes 2 seconds to ID someone, but when 98% of the people you run into in game are enemies, eventually you stop IDing as much. people are stupid or get excited and just start attacking.
don't hold it against the vast majority of us who respect powers inc and have been friends with you for a long time.
<3

[soulstalker]

the bad part is i have helped this guy get his bodieds in the 140 lug dung as well as havok has and fellowed with this guy. well at least the toon. i dont want to group all of tls in the few that are the problem. but what are we to do if we have to watch our backs everytime we run into a khoa or we go afk when hunting

[Low Pan]

[soulstalker]

ty low for the post it mean alot. i dont like having to come here with shit like this but it seems every time we get things cleared up from little incidents like this it starts all over again.

since we are one of the last remaining anti guilds left and really only attack ppl we know to have wronged us time after time aka rpk's. it pains me to have to come her with this stuff. since i have been a leader and i guess you would call me the diplomacy leader tls has really been a good friend to us and i have alot of ppl that i would call friends. i know tls has changed it stance some what in the past year but through all of it they have remained our friends

as for the di's being take i dont know if they were taken and returned or if the were not returned. di's can come and they can go. what is hard at times is the vp you end up with. not saying it cant be dealt with but as you know you get 10% or more it can be a bitch. at the time battle moose had handed sai another 5 witch gave him 15% and as a mage going to the isle to loose that can be hard and if you go to other places it just take a while to loose. well any way enough of my rambling

as a friend of tls all i am asking is for someone to tell these noobs who we are and plz not attack us

[Gronde]

Please refer to this post from an earlier thread addressing the same issue. At this point as per the post we will continue to attempt to educate people that PI and The Borg are on a friendly status. Nothing will be done beyond this.


Gronde
Leader


Joined: 07 Apr 2003
Posts: 1193
Location: Seattle
Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:56 pm Post subject:

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I will be addressing Powers Inc leadership when the opportunity presents itself in regards to many issues. However, at the current time resources don't allow for this to transpire.

Although, I will see to it that the Powers Inc and Borg guilds are not to be attacked is back in the MOTD.


Thank-You
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[soulstalker]

gronde i know your busy with other stuff and other thing in rl i am sure and i am not sure what you mean by other issues.

i have to take care of my guild just like you and the other leaders of tls has to do for yours.yes i readed what you posted on the other thread but this attack was by a tls member we have helped and fellowed with in the 140 dung the other was by someone we did not know

i will continue to post unprovoked attack on my members cause that is what my guild expects of me to do. not just say ok and do nothing then what kind of leader would i be.

[Gronde]

We continue to educate members on our friendly PI relations. It is in the MOTD. As a fellow leader I should expect you are aware that we in TLS know what is happening here and are making honest efforts to enlighten new players and even some old returning players as to our friendly status with PI. TLS leaders in game /a this to players and in TS.

I would also hope that you would appreciate the fact we are working on something to rectify the problem. Unfortunately, it is taking much longer then anticipated. I can understand your frustration when you get attacked yet, be aware at this juncture we are not giving strikes for this nor booting anyone. But, will continue to encourage people to ID targets and not to attack PI or Borgs.

Thanks
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[soulstalker]

ty gronde for the expanation. that is what i am looking for. i am not asking you to boot or stike but educate the noobs of tls. the fact that your working on something and its takeing longer is not a problem. my posts are to let you know something is wrong and it needs to be addressed.

[Low Pan]

I do not want to flog a dying horse but I just wanted to say that the TLS leadership is in fact stating in /a chat not to attack PI's or Borgs in addition to the MotD. I have seen this stepped up more recently as well.

Gronde, maybe we can also get the buff bot to spam the MotD or our Friendlies every 5mins or so? Hehe, heck, I might just spam it every 5mins or so while I ACM. Anywho, cyas IG Souls, Isgod, Isbreath, Havoc, Sam and the rest of the gang.

[Dust]

battlemoose is a shared account, i thinks its Blazin's cousin, generaly played by blazin, i would assume the cousin was on and didtn quiet know what was going on....either way in the wrong..........

kinda off topic but i would just like to comment on the fact that a few people mention in above posts, that people stop IDing so much after 98% of people that are'nt squares end up being an enemy, this is very true. i rarely run into PIs, and the few i do i general recognize the name, nott ID and see if they are still PI....im not trying to defend the ignorance of some that lack the ability to realize whats going on, but i would like to point out that although i dont know for sure how many allies PI has, i know its more then just khao, and on more then one occasion i have fought pks fellowed with PIs, sometimes PIs stand aside, othertimes they help.....

one particular instance, i was on Dread lord twisti with a PK fellow out.

we were killing vp on vissidal when my tank picked up pks, so i ran over to see what was up

i noticed havok and a few other PIs near drop, but also Blackscorp specificly and a few other PKs..

i ran up, ringed, killed blackscrop..

the PIs then vulned and got me on almost instantly

now. one could assume they didtn ID, so i did not immediately atack the PIs

i was talking in teamspeak to my fellow raiders, asken what i should do

there was some chat comunication between PIs and khaos, but the 3 PI/PK melees that were currently atackind me(all evades) did not stop, so again i ringed and all three were killed

i paused for a minute, but havok engaged so i responded in kind. havok ended up running, i think, or we realized what was going on.

didnt realy make much of it at the time, and im not a big poster on the boards, but i see this type of post all the time and it begins to frustrate me

i can understand your frustration with this situation, but being allied with clans we are not, and your members defending our enemies is in it self not helping the problem, and anything i read or hear anything about this, i laugh because your shooting yourself in the foot

if you want alliance, it should be a 100% IMO

as i said that day, and ive always said, a friend of my enemy is also my enemy regardless

only PIs ive killed have been defending, or avenging thier fallen allys
that were NOT my allys, thus making that PI NOT my ally

the ongoing rant about fixing this from our end grows more anoying each time i see that your allied with people we are not.
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