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Hollow Weapons

Hollow Weapons (7/14/00) -Dhali

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> Dave, I know you to be a level headed guy, not quick to jump to conclusions, or jump on the latest fad of whining.
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> So, understand me when I ask these questions that I am not doubting you. Just that I want to understand.
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> How come I don't see you casting drain health here? Or anything for that matter?

By the time I had turned, gone into combat mode, and hit the drain key, I was in the purple tunnel. It was over that fast.

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> If two guys jumped you unbuffed, with regular bd3 or 4 weapons, your death would be faster than this.
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True. But that would be my fault for not being buffed. And if I were buffed, that doesn't mean that I could necessarily kill the melee.

> If you wear a matty coat and reedshark leggings, how does that make you weaker to so many more things? And no matter what those things are, do you really care? The main enemy is PK's.
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I've already ditched my robe, and gone with a Matty Coat, and leather leggings of AL 41 or so. Weak, but hopefully better vs. these ridiculous weapons.

> You have often said how sick it is that mages at level one and two can kill matties. And then a lot of mages go out to teth at level 10 or 15 and kill stuff to level. When you say it makes you weaker to wear reedshark and matty, does that mean that now you don't have a robe, maybe you have to fight things more appropriate to your level?
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True. And I do think mages are more powerful as far as killing creatures than melee. I've always had a hard time killing melee people of equal or higher level in the game, if they knew what they were doing. If they sit there and keep attacking, yes, I kill them. But most melee are faster than me. They never really had to die, and many of them did not.

> And lastly -
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> I went to get arrows for hiro last night, I was wearing armor 3, magic resist 3, fire pro 2, lightning pro 3.
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> I was attacked by two guys using acid weapons
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> I was killed in under 5 seconds.
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> No lie.
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I know. I shouldn't have even made the post to the board. It was late, and I was extremely pissed about getting killed so easily and not having a chance to get away. I think that balance was needed, but this isn't the way I would have gone. I don't know if things will be as bad now that I'm wearing armor instead of a robe. The really bad part is that now even if I wanted to get something like Shadow Armor, I can't because it's gone. Or at least I think it is. We'll see how things go now that I'm wearing armor I suppose.

> They attacked, I turned to attack one guy, hit him once, noticed I was already too low to heal, and then I was dead.
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> We're all in the same boat. Sometimes, two guys jump you and you die. Listing all the armor buffs you had on means nothing. Its like me saying "I was wearing Lightning Pro VI and these new acid weapons cut through me like nothing."
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> Yes, you do have to adapt. Yes, everything has changed. The real question is HOW MUCH?
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> You were standing in town, in a buffed up robe, and you were killed by hollow weapons.
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> Why does this surprise you?
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> Thats exactly what they were designed to do.
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I just didn't feel that robes were the problem. Spells like Drain Health were the problem. Things like the fact that Armor and Shields do nothing against War magic were the problem. It's like MtG. I feel like they just put Time Spiral, Windfall and Stroke of Genius in the game. I feel like they just sped the environment up too much by making the change _this_ way instead of fixing the real problems.

I'll adapt. I already have. I just do not like having to spend extra XP on things like Strength because they decided to make robes useless.

Monty

Can I tell you a story?
Hehe
I am in Kara
A blood appears out of no where
Level 28 Unarmed
I can tell he is unarmed cuz he is rushing me with a Hollow Claw.
I am level 15 Dagger dude
I have a Dillo coat and Shield and reed shark leggs all unbuffed
He swings and I think "great im dead"
He does 2
I aint going down like that
Dagger of Trickola swings in at max power
SQEUALLLL!!!! Hit him for 32
He hits me for 2
Adjust for full speed damage
Hit him for 12
Hit him for 14
Hit him for 23
He hits me for 2
At this point I start wondering why am I Alive?
He is swinging in like slow motion.
Ahh Hollow Weapons CANT BE BUFFED!!!
His unarmed speed is 18or 20 my dagger speed is 0
Hehehe
Hit him for 32
Hit him for 13
Hit him for dead
Hehe
That fast and it was over
One dead level 28 dude done in
At the same time I was doing this a mage in faran robe with hood was
fighting another Blood next to me with a Hollow something or other
The mage grunts and cast drain health I ahhhh
The mage Grunts and cast drain health I ahhhh
The Blood steps back tries to heal gets the old lighting Vuln IV
lighting Botl III treatment
The Blood misses a heal and folds

Level 26 mage
Level 32 Blood
Mage wins

And yes I would like a hollow Dagger and a Ravenous Dagger just because
they are no drop goodness against mages
And the Ravenous dagger might even be better than the dagger of Trickola


John P Loggins

 

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