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This is culled from a letter I sent to David Montgomery aka
Dhali
I doubt if he will mind my reposting it here.
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| I'm just going to explain my feelings on Darktide right now. |
| It bugs me that there is not more of a penalty for death. Or for
breaking alliances. Or for finding out if someone is a PK'er. Like
Ultima Online used to have things that told if you were evil or good
or not right in your title. Your title used to say things like "Druss
the Virtuous. or Dave the Vile" You had no control over what it said
beside your name other than your actions. If you killed people, you
got that little Vile next to your name. The more people you killed,
the worse it got. "Druss the evil piece of murdering scum" I hate
that when I meet someone, I have to either know that they are bad,
or wait for them to attack me. Some days I would like to just sign
on, see that somone was evil, and just spend the day smashing people
who are evil. Being good, you can't just go from town to town smashing
evil. You go from town to town and wait to be attacked. |
| Daves post about how he likes to play evil some times hit the nail
on the head. There are trimes when I would just like to sign on and
test myself against people and when they give me crap, just squelch
them. Its not my fault they don't "get" it. |
| I think there are still a lot of people on the board that don't
"get it" |
| The people who do "get it" know that it is just a game. A game like
risk or monopoly, or dungeons and dragons. Or even Quake. |
| If someone comes up and kills you randomly, it is the class acts
that will msg that person and say "Nice job, thanks for not looting
me" Or even "nice job, you got some good stuff off me." |
| Those are the people who get it. |
| People who die, then msg people and say "What the hell was that
for?" don't get it. |
| If you are a red dot you are a monster. You can be attacked. You
can be looted. You have better AI, but you are a monster. You are
fair game. |
| When you play on DT, why do you get upset when someone attacks you?
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| Level 20 beating up on a level one? |
| I don't care. I don't care any more than I see a level 20 kill a
drudge. |
| Whatever. |
| Its just a game. |
| Its not my fault you don't "get it" |
| If you want to role play evil - that is a choice you make. Do not
whine when I kill your punk ass. If you want to role play Good, then
be an example, follow your own set of rules. |
| Heres a clue - evil does not follow your rules. They are red dots.
They are the enemy. They are monsters that come to town. If you are
playing on DT or you are a PK on HG, then you have to Grok this. Don't
bitch about it. |
| This is not directed at people who do not like PK's. |
| This is not directed at people who have no desire to go PK on HG
or on people who have no desire to play on DT. This is directed at
people who think it is wrong to attack red dots on HG or wrong to
kill red dots on DT. |
| If you say it is wrong for you - or wrong for members of your clan
to attack red dots - then that is a choice you make. Thats fine. That
is the wasy you want to play. |
| That doesn't mean that everyone follows your rules. The rules on
DT is this - you ARE fair game. Don't hollor at people who kill you.
It amuses them, and makes you look dumb. |
| back to my rant on how I feel about DT.... |
| Also, my original goals of Darktide are unattainable. You cannot
look at DT like a risk board. Which is what I wanted to do. There
is never any way to eliminate the evil and take over a town. It will
always just be skirmish after skirmish. |
| Also, there is no way to make someone "unplayable" And now its even
harder with the one minute protection on resurection. I would like
to be able to kill people like Theros the bear. As in - make them
have 40% vitae, and no items. naked. unplayable because it would be
easier to start over with 100 gold pieces and some pants. |
| What does that mean? it means that Theros will never really pay
for his actions. He gets to kill us all as newbies, and unless we
want to get bigger, then stay in Yanshi for the rest of our life,
he never gets punished. We kill him a few times, he logs, comes back
some other time and works off vitae in a spot we don't know about.
Because death and being killed by good are not that big a penalty.
Each death should have consequences on darktide. You might think about
how many enemies you make if dying actually mattered. As it is now,
Theros could be hated by the entire server, and still play his character.
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| What I'm saying is - I need to redifine my goals for darktide. I
am purely goal oriented, and my goals for DT are unattainable. |
| I need to figure out how to have goals in darktide. |
| Be neutral? Not good or evil? Be the one Monarch by being the Uniter?
Everyone must be my clan or they are the enemy? |
| Being good is tough on Darktide. One of the reasons I moved over
there is so that we could camp the noble room and kill anyone who
came in. Can't do that if you are good. |
| Think about that. |
| Can't do that if you are good. |
| First you must assess people and find out what their intentions
are. Then if you are a good person, you let them hunt with you. Well,
that sort of defeats the purpose then doesn't it? Now you still have
to share the Matty cave and the olthoi noble room with others who
might get more kills than you. Not interested in that. I want to take
the source to the matty cave, camp it for coats, and if anyone is
there they join us as source, or we kill them. |
| In order to come to Darktide, I have to be the Leader. Ulric - the
Uniter of the tribes. |
| (tell me you have read the book that Druss comes from? Tell me
you have read "Legend") |
| That means I won't be a good guy. |
| It also means starting over - again. |
| I'm playing Druss again, and I relish the force of nature feeling.
We took some lower levels to the folthid cellar last night, and I
was so glad I was not little any more. They run so slow, and they
die so easy!!! |
| Much like Magic, I have done so much experimenting with different
charcters, that I have started over so many times. mages, unarmed,
mace guys, etc etc. |
| Starting over again is just loathsome to me. I am not ready to
do it yet. |
| And also, playing on Darktide as a diversion is fun, but in order
to do it and really have fun with it, I need to stop playing on harvestgain,
and I can't do that right now. I need to devote all my energies to
Darktide and I can't do that now. |
| Mare keeps wanting to play more DT, so we will be there, but not
in the way that many would like. Perhaps in august like I have always
said... |
| Eventually I am going to get bored with Harvestgain, and so are
others. |
| It is then that we move over to DT and become Ulric the uniter.
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| Not good. Neutral. |
| Anyone not source is the enemy. |
| That way we get to kill and loot people. :-) |
| And that way we get to go to bandie hill, powerlevel, and anyone
shows up, we don't need to worry about if they are good or not. They
are Source, or they become source by joining us, or they die. |
| No treaties with anyone. |
| Stranger = enemy |
| That way, we get to be clan, and we get to go to darktide for the
main reason to go to darktide. No crowding. |
| Anyone comes in while we are camping the matty cave for source coats?
we can kill them for wanting a coat. No cooperation and being nice
and having to share kills. No. You become source, or you die and we
get to have source hunt the matty cave. |
| thats my idea. |
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later
Jamie
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